Oklahoma Townhall Meeting: Elderly Concerns About Mandated “End-Of-Life” Counseling


Elderly at Oklahoma Townhall Meeting
Elderly at Oklahoma Townhall Meeting

An elderly man asked a question regarding government-mandated “end-of-life” counseling at a packed filled town hall meeting held by Senator Coburn (R) in Muskogee, OK on Aug. 13, 2009. He said that he was an organ transplant patient and that he has already made peace with his maker.
He indicated that at this point in his life, HR 3200 (end-of-life counseling) was a mute point. He wanted to know how much of the proposals within the legislative committees mirrored HR 3200.

HR 3200 (section 1233) has provision mandating end-of-life counseling for the elderly & disabled. It is believed that this encourages euthanasia.

Senator Coburn responded that 3200 mandates federal government to get involvement in the lives of the citizens. And its unconstitutional.

there’s no common sense written in the house bill that it reflects a lack of knowledge of what happens in healthcare. (Note: Senator Coburn is also a physician). And that Government should not destroy what is good, in the name of creating a government-run program.

Below is video clip of the elderly concerns about HR 3200

34 thoughts on “Oklahoma Townhall Meeting: Elderly Concerns About Mandated “End-Of-Life” Counseling

  1. In 1794, when Congress appropriated $15,000 for relief for French refugees who fled from insurrection in San Domingo (now Haiti) to Baltimore and Philadelphia, James Madison said disapprovingly, “I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.”

    The same is true with Healthcare.

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  2. Were you asleep for last eight years on constitution and suddenly you woke up and felt that there is even a contitution in this country?

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  3. No common sense, Obama and his KREW are testing the limits of how far left they can drag our country, we are under attack from this Marxist/Maoist administration

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    1. Everyday you say this. EVERYDAY this happens.Why?WHY would it be that EVERYDAY that lstfiets work this hard or think this way? I *GET* it that liberals and the communist party people have underwritten lots of marches, etc.But why?If there are 10 or 20 percent of people who really believe that stuff, then surely there must be 50% of them who are cognizant and able to see history and people for what they are.So why does that 5 to 10 percent of Americans do it? Why do they march and rally and work so hard to bring America down?As near as I can figure, they aren’t BLACK, or displaced. They aren’t Indian or living on reservations. What are communists or socialists doing in America? Why are they here? WHAT THE **** is their gripe?There is what is called the LONG game. We’re getting healthier, living longer, having more choices and having more power over our lives than EVER before in history.Who are these socialists and statists that would curtail that? Why should we listen to them for a moment?I’m sorry Breitbart died. I’m sorry Reagan’s gone and most particularly, I’m sorry “what’s his name” is gone. . . that Buckley guy.I don’t want a bunch of red-neck, reality TV conservatives – even if they espouse the things I believe in.I want simple people who live and work the way I do to say the simple things we believe in.If SEIU and other unions believe they have a right to their pensions when non-union people are losing homes and seeing real inflation, ok. But why not own up to the fact that they are just another lobbying group that wants to protect themselves while the rest of us suffer for their past actions?We’re all guilty, pretty much. This debt happened because we let it. And, one way or another, we’re all gonna pay for it.But why on earth should we listen to socialists about it? They haven’t a clue.

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  4. You are correct karmahd, America is under attack from within its own government! Bin Laden said this would happen!

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  5. There is no mandated end of life counseling.. only a provision put there by Republicans in the Medicare bill to pay for such counseling if someone requests it. This is the very same feature that Newt Gingrich once praised.. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!!

    If you are interested in the truth then get a copy of the bill and go to page 425 and read what is says..not what some Republican Insurance shill trying to frighten you says it says..
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    But somehow i dont think you will. This is mostly about destroying a President with hate and fear and lies..

    You have called him a Muslim, someone that hates whites, anti American, wishing for America to fail, paling around with terrorists, foreign born, socialist, Hitler like, Marxist, a thug and more.. This mandated end of life counseling and death panels and such is outrageous. Get over it!! You lost the election and to a black man as well and all your lies and hate cant change that fact.. unless of course you intend to use other means….

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